Re: ON TOPIC! The Hindi/Urdu word/phrase for 'the business' - vote request

[Manu Saxena <dreamofpeace@xxxxxxxx>]

Hello,

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> >         Hope this is helpful!
> 
> If anything, it's confused the crap outa me!

        Hey, nobody said this would be easy ;-)

> So, let's see if I've got this right: The phrase "The Business" 
> would translate to "Eh Vyapari"? Is that correct?

        Just "Vyapari", but yes.
        You know, it just occured to me that "Eh Bapar" may simply be a
poor (no offense to anyone intended) transliteration of "Vyapari". 
Taking off the "i" at the end is common (it's the gendered part of the
word, like the "a" in the word "problema" in Spanish), so it could be
pronounced "Vyapar" (the "a" sounds like "ah" rather than "uh" or
something else), which is close to "Eh Bapar".
        Another possibility also occured to me.  "Eh Bapar" also sounds
like "Bapareh", which in Hindi can be an expression of exasperation (kind
of like "for Pete's sake!" or "Come on!" or even "How stupid!" in
English).  Were I inclined to be uncharitable, I might think whoever gave
the tranlsation was in a bad mood 
:-)       
        Regardless, I am not really concerned about any credit, I'm just
trying to help out.  I look forward to seeing your completed work!

Best Wishes,

Manu          

> In the mean time...
> 
> Please, people, I don't want to keep being an (sorry!) Indian Giver, 
> by one minute giving one bloke credit, then
> withdrawing such promise, and giving it to someone else. It's 
> grossly unfair to everyone if that continues to happen.
> So, the only solution I can come up with is this: A vote by the 
> members of this list.
> 
> Can I *please*, therefore, have a vote on this topic: Which 
> phrase/word is best for a Millennium's End Indian Crime
> organisation, with fingers in just about every kind of crime in the 
> civilised (and not-so-civilised) world, calling
> itself (in English) "The Business", when translated into Hindi or 
> Urdu? Is it:
> 
>     1. Eh Bapar
>     2. Karabar
>     3. Vyapari
>     or
>     4. Dukanvala
> 
> There's no prize as such, but the person who supplied the 
> translation of the successful word/phrase WILL receive credit
> for the translation in the 5th and subsequent editions of the 
> Millennium's End London Sourcebook.
> 
> The cut-off date for this vote is Wednesday, 3rd October, at 12:00 
> BST.
> 
> Thanks in advance.
> 
> Best regards,
> 
> Roger Stenning
> Organiser, The Impossible Scenarios Group
> www.the-isg.co.uk
> ICQ: 74721632
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> (PGP public key available on request)
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