Well OK it's not actually a car, it's the US army's latest toy for MOUT: http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/world/americas/newsid_1362000/1362402.stm Fancy your chances during rush hour in this Mr Stenning? :-) Lee Williams ICQ 25628876 Associate Editor - DEMONGROUND: Reflections of a Darker Future http://www.demonground.org leewilliams@demonground.org