[Date Prev][Date Next][Thread Prev][Thread Next][Date Index][Thread Index]

Re: Class III weapons purchase in US was Constutional questions



    All machine guns, short rifles, and short shotguns are $200 tax weapons.
100% of this goes to the US Treasury Dept.  The state is not involved in the
transaction, neither is the dealer except to provide the information about
the weapon.  I believe suppressors and some other things fall under AOW.
Some dealers add a fee to run the Brady check, some jurisdictions charge a
fee also.  The FBI does not charge a fee, yet, but they have asked Congress
if they can several times.
    Actually most of this is relevant if the GM follows current US law when
players want to buy the fun toys that make LOUD noises.  When my players
want to purchase (legally) Class III weapons, I charge them the extra $200
and make them wait the 2-6 weeks before they can take delivery.  It keeps
the players thinking (they can't just run down to the local Class III dealer
and pick up what they want).  I do fudge the law some and allow all modern
Class III's to be bought, the law stops transferables to civilians at
weapons made before 1985, I think.
    Anybody have more info?  I know Pender had the relevant law books on his
shelf.

Gareth Livergood
----- Original Message -----
From: "Eric Benson" <e_r_benson@hotmail.com>
To: <millenniums-end-l@firedrake.org>
Sent: Friday, 27 July, 2001 7:48 PM
Subject: Re: US Constitution query


> > In a message dated 7/26/2001 10:51:36 AM Central Daylight Time,
> > jericson@erinet.com and CamaroGen1 wrote:
> >
> > << In other words, it really behooves you to pay Uncle Sam his $200. >>
> >
> >     Cost me about $25 (i think, definatly LOTS less than 200) to
register
> > each of my firearms......
>
> $200 is the tax stamp cost for Class III/NFA fully automatic weapons,
> silencers, destructive devices, short barrelled weapons and other fun
toys.
>
> In this case, paying the $200 for the short barrelled shotgun (or is it
> AOW?) would have saved a boatload of heartache and a lot of overtime for
the
> lawyers.
>
> Is that a $25/weapon tax per year or one-time?  How much of your fee is
> actual government fees and how much is profiteering by the dealer?  When I
> was in IL, there was a $2.50 (IIRC) fee to the state to use the instant
> check system (validate the buyer) and then the dealers tacked on their
> amounts for the service.  $25 always seemed like a bit much, especially if
> the buyer took care of finding the distributer, the cost, getting a
> certified bank check, etc.  Profiteering and reasonable cost, however, are
a
> separate argument that really isn't relevent to M-E-L.
>
> -Eric
>
> --
> Millennium's End list: mail millenniums-end-l-request@firedrake.org with
> subject "unsubscribe" to leave
>